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26 июля, 01:00

No Nostalgia - Giorgio Gaber

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“No, no nostalgia. Maybe then as well, many had opened their wings like so many seagulls who were ultimately unable to fly. “And now? Now as well, we feel like two people: on the one hand the conformist who obsequiously navigates the squalor of his own daily survival, and on the other the seagull, no longer with even the intention of flight, because the dream has shriveled away. Two wretchednesses within a single body." “...Vive le roi quand même. French royalists who were frustrated with the fecklessness of Louis XVI would open up about his shortcomings in discreet conversations, and then end by saying 'Long live the king anyway!'” - Outis Philalithopoulos on Giorgio Gaber's “Some people were communists”

19 июля, 21:40

Tories

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Tories are the conservatives of Britain. They have always represented the aristocracy. They were the loyalist traitors to the American Revolution. Their stronghold was New York. By the Treaty of Paris of 1783 that ended the American Revolutionary War, the Tory traitors in our new country were allowed to keep their liberty and property and were not required to leave the federation. Today their [spiritual] heirs are the Wall St oligarchs: billionaires, banksters, CEOs, Giga hedge fund managers and the rest of the FIRE sector parasites that threaten our existence with their greed, like the British royalty did until 1776. In the 1860s tories rebelled and tried to ally with the British as the Confederate States of America. The Civil War should have ended their "states rights" conspiracy to maintain de-juro slavery. It lives on in the corporatocracy that has all but completely eradicated genuine liberty in America today The party of the conservative [Tory traitor] Wall St masters is the Republican. They faithfully represent the 0.001% and their principal ministers. They appeal to their victims for the broad support they need to rule our democratic republic by inciting fear, racism, sexism/misogyny, xenophobia, ignorance of reality and homophobia that are the [almost] honest part of the pitch. Then come the lies about improving the economic outlook, choices and opportunity for the majority coupled with denial of realities* that are inconvenient to the masters agenda. That's what puts them over the top. In other words, since the end of WWII, the only way the cons have won is by cultivating the lowest common denominators of morality, scruples and thoughtfulness. The first two traits they own themselves and in the case of Trump all three. Maybe that's how he outran the rest of the parasites in the most recent race to the bottom. *The true probabilities of success in a world of finite resources and global warming are the first examples of denial that come to mind. Those two are easy to obscure in a mostly, even among the elites, mathematically and scientifically ignorant population that is eager to embrace denial of anything that interferes with individual self interest. Such fools don't care to know the real probability of winning great wealth. Even the few who can do such calculations will not, unless they're gloating over their personal [statistically rare] triumph over the odds. The rest think they were all supposed to be billionaires but have been unfortunate. They are right in a way. But they think that because anyone can do it with luck that it's possible for everyone. That's what I mean by mathematically ignorant. And then there's the truly self destructive global warming deniers. Thom Hartman presents these ideas in his own way: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/07/21st-century-form-indentured-servitude-already-penetrated-deep-american-heartland.html

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16 июля, 19:14

How did America get here?

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Check out James McGill Buchanan. He's more fascist than Friedman and von Hayek. http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/41206-misinforming-the-majority-a-deliberate-strategy-of-right-wing-libertarians

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11 июля, 03:26

Excess Money

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Everybody knows the rich and their banks and corporations pay lower percentages of taxes than the rest of us. Everybody knows many of them pay no taxes at all. Many of us and our governments borrow money from the rich. We borrow to live a decent life. The governments borrow and do the things like build and repair roads, defense and other things we need in common. Some say we don't have to borrow. Is that really true? Q: Why do the rich have excess money that they can loan to us and our government? A: The rich don't pay taxes. If the governments taxed the excess instead of borrowing it, maybe we could pay lower taxes and have more of our earnings so we wouldn't have to borrow so much either. What do you think?

26 июня, 16:20

health care thralls

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Who's programmed to choose sides that don't differ significantly? "...ideas such as universal healthcare exist, but they’re only allowed a quick 3-minute shout-out by Bernie Sanders before MSNBC plays him off like he’s an Oscar speech that has gone on too long. “I’m sorry! That’s all the time we have for the only rational, moral course for our country to take on healthcare. Coming up next, 4 hours of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare! The battle of the titans!...” http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/06/lee-camp-heres-no-legitimate-healthcare-debate-country.html

22 июня, 01:40

The Dinosaur Threat

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Reactionary dinosaurs may well be as great a threat to us as the planet killing asteroid that took out the earlier cold blooded reptilian monsters. I can't rail enough against the Republicans, now that they're hiding the content of the heath care bill that will take a greed broken system and reduce the number of Americans who can receive even that overpriced low quality big pharma poisoned (and misdirected) service. It's their evil intent to give tax cuts to billionaires and further bloat the Medical Insurance and Management fraud that's impoverishing the rest of us that hyper inflates my usually high pressure outrage. If you disagree with conservatives on health care or anything else that profits their rich owners, they will do whatever it takes - including violence - to shut you up. The Kent State and Jackson State murders in Nixon's 1970 Amerika demonstrated that to me when I was 24 years old. I have never forgiven the Republicans/fascists for those crimes against humanity. I never will. How could I? They've grown more dangerous, even if at times subtle, every year. Trump is the worst yet. I've said it all before. You can't compromise with conservatives. There's no honesty or sincerity in them. And this becomes more apparent as events occur like candidate Trump's thuggish supporters beating protesters with his approval and a congressional candidates body slamming a reporter. And whoa! For the first time I'm aware of in the 21st century, one of the usually meek and passive opponents of growing fascism [stupidly] took up arms against corporatist representatives. What's this world coming to?

16 июня, 16:34

Trust Fund Perfidy

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FICA tax withholding from our paychecks is the source of the social security trust fund. The mostly conservative politicians borrowed and spent the the trust fund on regular government expenses at the same time they gave tax cuts to their wealthy patrons. Now they tell us that social security is broke, because they don't want to tax the rich to get back the money they stole from us. (A loan that one has no intention of repaying is a theft.) They say social security and Medicare are a great part of government expenditure. The reality is they owe that money to us because they already taxed us to get it and spent it on the military industrial complex and other corporate welfare programs and/or tax cuts that also make their handlers richer. Who are they? Paul Ryan is one. http://www.cbpp.org/research/the-ryan-budgets-radical-priorities If you've been paying attention, you know others. If you haven't, you'd better start educating yourself on the 2017 economic realities in America. The attack on social security is only a hint about what's going on in neoliberal times. Eventually people will see that most politicians and especially conservatives serve only the rich masters. Perhaps more frequent mass shootings are a sign of that change, like more frequent storms indicate climatic upheaval. What follows is most of the last paragraph of seven by Gaius Publius: "The Collapsing Social Contract" "... The country is already in a pre-revolutionary state; that's one huge reason people chose Trump over Clinton, and would have chosen Sanders over Trump. The Big Squeeze has to stop, or this will be just the beginning of a long and painful path. We're on a track that nations we have watched - tightly "ordered" states, highly chaotic ones - have trod already. While we look at them in pity, their example stares back at us." Take 30 seconds and read the whole thing: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/06/gaius-publius-collapsing-social-contract.html

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12 июня, 00:01

trade and the price of fruit

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The price and profit on domestic foods increases when their are profits from exports. So if Trump does fix the trade deficit, what happens to the prices for the goods we consume domestically? Think plums from Chile in the winter and to Chile in the summer. Milton Friedman's Chilean miracle.

07 июня, 17:12

A Bad Conquest

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The human story is one of conquest. Therefore, it will come to a bad end. When too many raid or raiders kill all the producers and there's nothing left to steal, such an economy will fail. Those who depend on it will die. It's not just military conquest. Economic conquest, since the time of Joseph in Egypt, has been more devastating because less recognized as a threat. Usurers and rentiers are not seen as conquerors and economy/livelihood destroyers. Yet they live by raiding their neighbors hard works and do no productive thing, just like military or terrorist raiders. They take until there is no more. How can such a world continue, when everyone takes from those who make until the latter are no more. Slaves die when masters take everything and leave nothing for the former to live on. The poor in Africa starve, while the poor in America live ten years less than average and suffer from malnutrition related diseases like diabetes. The middle class are languishing and only the top ten percent are doing well in the market economy. Yet conservatives always imagine a dystopia worse than the one they impose by their greed if the system could be changed to improve lives at the bottom. They think no one sees through their libertarian sophistry and hypocrisy. Everything is what conservatives want for themselves. They don't think far enough ahead to see that when they have it, those of us who actually do the work to make it will die. In the end, as in the beginning, the cons will have conned themselves. And the human race will be extinct.

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03 июня, 05:03

Controlling the Narrative

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After not posting on this forum for years I thought I'd come back and have a look. Almost all of my original posts have been deleted from this site, and someone has conveniently lowered my contributor points to about 1/5 of what they actually were. As I thought when I left, no forum subject to this much censorship is worth contributing to.

01 июня, 16:06

Debt Death Spiral

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Yves Smith at Naked Capitalism posted a short Michael Hudson essay about student loans and debt in general on June 1, 2017: "A lot of people forget that having debt you can't pay back really sucks. Debt is not just a credit instrument, it is an instrument of political and economic control. ..." Yves Smith "Bankers sit on the boards of the leading universities – not simply by buying their way in as donors, but because they finance the transformation of universities into real estate companies. Columbia and New York University are major real estate holders in New York City. Like the churches, they pay no property or income tax, being considered to play a vital social role. But from the bankers' vantage point, their role is to provide a market for debt whose magnitude now outstrips even that of credit card debt!..." Michael Hudson http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/06/michael-hudson-students-class.html Austerity measures are imposed to reduce debt. Spiraling debt grows and wealth becomes more concentrated because of the interest, which is the profit of those who invest in debt. We go into debt, as does our govt. because we have insufficient income. Debt dividends are the income of the banksters and billionaires who own everything. Do you really think the banksters and billionaires are going to let us or our government, their two biggest cash cows, get out of debt through austerity or any other means we poor mortals can devise? The debt spiral that feeds the parasitic monsters who own everything is the death spiral for the economy and the human race.

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27 мая, 16:05

Don't worry so much about Trump.

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Don't worry about Trump. He's just in passing. Worry about what is going on in the Democratic party. The Hag and her cronies are still there and operating. They're making all that Russia hacking stuff up to deflect the fact that they are non-starters in any sort of election where democracy works. What really needs to happen is that the rank and file of the Democratic party needs to boot them out. Get rid of them like one needs to get rid of a bad cancer. Otherwise, we can kiss the Democratic party, and our Nation good bye.